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Comments (28)So, you are saying that plywood is not good for frameless cabinets? and ...particle board contracts and expands considerable less than plywood. Doesn't it sort of imply that it is "better"? First of all, if A is better than B, it does not follow that B is not good. Secondly, you need to consider the application. The SS countertop application may require that property. Does it follow that frameless cabinets also require it? (As a side note, why wouldn't SS countertops use particle board? It is probably the cheapest material that meets the requirements they have.) Yes, you are correct that particle board is more dimensionally stable than plywood (which is, in turn, more dimensionally stable than lumber). Dimensional stability is one attribute that is good for cabinetry construction in general, and for frameless cabs in particular. However, plywood's dimensional stability is plenty good enough for frameless cabinetry. A little more dimensional stability, while arguably "better," is of little additional utility in practice. Plywood has other attributes that compare favorably to particle board. It is a lot lighter, and it stands up better to water. (Neither will survive a flood, but plywood can survive a quick soak that might kill particle board.) They are both appropriate materials for frameless cabinets, with very slight relative advantages and disadvantages. You will have to weigh off the cost, weight, offgassing, stability, and water-resistant properties to decide. (I chose plywood.)...See MoreOrdering Conestoga RTAs: tips & tricks
Comments (44)@emilyam819, did you give yourself about 6 inches from the ceiling like @beachem did? @lam702 - did you demo your whole kitchen before you took these precise measurements? I only have one run where the cabs have to fit in between two walls. Everywhere else I have some wiggle room. But of course this run is my sink wall, the only one I'd like to keep intact as long as possible. I was thinking that I'd order the cabinets so they're about half an inch smaller than the run (based on my measurements with the current cabinets intact), just in case - and if there ends up being a half inch gap, I'd put it next to the blind corner where it won't be seen. (See pic) @Sombreuil, this is EXACTLY what I'm looking for. I'm going to email Jim about it today. THANK YOU! @Sophie, you're so right. I have a few handy men in my life who have installed cabinets before so I'm trusting them with this. I think it also helps that I don't have many (any?) walls that need to be scribed to (and only 1 upper). But there's no doubt that installation needs to be on point for a good-looking kitchen!...See MoreWhite Shaker Battle: Ikea vs the rest of the Cabinet World
Comments (69)This is a great thread and I've read it with lots of interest. I'm not as interested in IKEA vs. the rest as I am in frameless vs. framed. I grew up in Europe with frameless cabinets and have now lived in the US for nearly 30 years with various framed cabinets. I still like frameless better from what appears to me be a usability factor, but maybe that is all in my head, but the things that I'd like more information on is to figure out if this is just in my head. What is the inside dimension of a drawer for a say a 30" cabinet for the different brands, or use the 36" or an 18" as an example. The same goes for how much space is wasted in say in the 171" direction and the 143" direction due to the framed parts? It might not be much, but having gone from a large kitchen where I had plenty of storage and the frame was smaller to a smaller kitchen with framed cabinets that has more frame (I assume to save money on the doors) this is something that is really pushing me towards frameless feeling like it has less wasted space and be more comparable across lines of frameless cabinets vs. framed ones where that seems to vary by the manufacturer. One thing that to this day annoys me with the framed cabinets is the lip on the bottom shelf. I love it when I visit my mom and friends in Europe how easy it is to slide out a stack of plates from the bottom shelf and not have to go through the lift motion first....See MoreFabuwood vs. Diamond vs. Kraftmaid vs. Covered Bridge in 2022
Comments (2)If you plan on living in your home for a long period of time, you'll want to invest in plywood. It's not for every budget, but it's something that'll last. A particle board box is really just compressed wood chips held together by glue. Water and humidity will ruin that in no time. As for the different brands, I would say your best value is easily Covered Bridge. Even in its most basic construction, it is a 3/4" plywood box. Fabuwood is standard at 1/2", and Kraftmaid and Diamond don't even come standard with plywood, although many independent dealers only sell them with All-Plywood-Construction. Pricing obviously depends on your dealer, but generally Kraftmaid and Diamond price higher, and offer you less. Covered Bridge is a custom cabinet manufacturer. Kraftmaid and Diamond are semi-custom. Fabuwood is in-between stock and semi-custom. They have many more options than your average stock line, but they are still a little too limited to be considered truly semi-custom. As far as being an import cabinet, I wouldn't be too hung up on that. It's just a way to save on labor costs. None of these cabinets are flat-packed RTA cabinets. The only slight exception is Fabuwood does import everything in pieces and assembles them in New Jersey. This may turn some people off, but I would go to a dealer and look at each cabinet's construction, look at what styles and colors they offer, and then get a price. Fabuwood offers pretty much the same construction as Kraftmaid and Diamond if you upgrade them to All-Plywood Construction, but they can get you a better price. Covered Bridge is most likely going to price higher than Fabuwood, but you're getting a lot more bang for your buck. If you're anywhere on Long Island from Brooklyn to Montauk, I would consider checking out Consumers Kitchens & Baths. They carry all of these brands with the exception of Diamond. My kitchen turned out wonderful!...See MoreUser
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