Best skirted toilet for reduced clogs?
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Comments (22)MrsPete- The low-flow toilets that are now required to be sold use as little as 1/5 of the water as the old toilets we grew up with. To work well they depend on careful engineering of the trap so there is an efficient flush with this reduced amount of water. You can't tell by just looking at them, but some toilets do this better than others. For example the Toto has a somewhat larger trap diameter than many toilets and this makes a big difference in clogging or not. I used to think that all toilets did the same thing until I had experience installing and using a variety of brands. Some of the money you pay for expensive toilets can be a premium for the style rather than better operation, just like a lot of items around the house. I have bought the $99 toilets before: some were ok, some were terrible. I finally decided I was willing to pay several hundred dollars for something I could install and forget about for the next 40 years, rather than get a plunger out every couple of weeks. Read the review links in this thread and decide for yourself....See MoreToto-All 4 different Totos clog-HELP!!!
Comments (25)The problem is not the toilet, nor is it a problem with venting although it is so blatantly obvious that on first inspection it goes totally unnoticed by homeowners and even most plumbers, however I would bet a steak dinner that once I explain the problem all the plumbers who read these posts will slap the palm of their hand on their forehead and shout, "I knew that!" The post clearly states that all four TotoÂs were installed to replace older 3.5gpf toilets. That fact alone tells me that the house was constructed prior to the introduction of the 1.6gpf water saver toilets. Here is the answer: Prior to the introduction of 1.6gpf water saver toilets the plumbing codes mandated that all toilets must be installed on a 4" line. With a 3.5gpf flush the water level in a 4" line will fill the pipe about ½ way, which is a sufficient depth to convey the solid particulates in the waste, however with a 1.6gpf flush the water level is too low to properly suspend the solids. The solids then rub against the bottom of the pipe, retarding the velocity of flow and the water will seep around the solids, thus leaving the solids to buildup in the pipe forming a clog. In fact, in the early days of 1.6gpf toilets this is what made Toto famous because the Toto bowl filling technique and trap design resulted in a slightly higher velocity of flow than the competitors, which helped compensate for the pipe size problem. Once the problem was fully understood the plumbing codes were amended so that they now say if we install a toilet with a flush greater than 1.6gpf we must install it on a 4" line, but when installing a toilet with 1.6gpf or less we must install it on a 3" line. By reducing the pipe from 4" to 3" that effectively reduces the volume of the pipe to ½ the volume of a 4" line, which in turn raises the water level in the pipe during the flush to the prescribed 50% fill needed to properly suspend the solid particulates. Therefore, as I stated originally, the problem is not particular to the Toto toilets, it is a problem with water saver toilets in general, and understanding that we can no longer install toilets with a flush greater than 1.6gpf the only permanent solution is to change the toilet waste arm from 4" to 3"....See Moretoilet decisions - x post
Comments (0)I did a slew of research about toilets when we remodeled an upstairs bathroom 2 years ago. We ended up with a Toto Ultramax II. For the most part, we've been happy with our decision, however, cleaning the bowl is a pain due to an extra scooped out section in the outlet. DH has asked that we look at other toilets to avoid this issue when we remodel the other 2 bathrooms. I thought I had time to do my research until I realized that we will be replacing the toilet in our powder room when we redo the wood floors next month. I need to tell our GC what toilet we want to purchase asap. We want a one-piece, elongated seat, comfort height toilet. Soft close lid a plus but not critical. We'd also like streamlined sides for the base if possible. It doesn't have to be skirted, just fewer nooks and crannies to catch gunk. I read through several pages of threads and it seems that an AS might be the next best option. Pity, because we did like the looks of the Kohler Kathryn but after nearly 21 yrs of all-too-frequently clogged toilets (first gen low flow junk), we definitely don't plan to buy on looks alone. Please help me wade through toilet confusion. TIA! x-post in bathrooms forum....See Moretoilet decisions - x post
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